johnb80 Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 Have a look at zen. Not many people have heard about it but they come out top for everything on ADSL guide, have a look and compare ISP's on there, you wont better zen. PM me and I can do a deal for you if you're interested i.e. discount! Regards - John Quote
NikpV Posted May 1, 2006 Author Report Posted May 1, 2006 I am aware of zen's good reputation - I will pm you later Thanx Quote
Masked Marauder Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 Pipex are good, but limit your newsgroup downloads. Bulldog are cheap but if your not on a LLU exchange your not going to get higher speeds than you have now. Quote
johnb80 Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 Glad you've had a good experience with PIPEX, mine is totally the opposite hence why we're migrating the 120+ websites we host FROM Pipex TO ZEN. Pipex customer care is next to useless, accounts inaccurate and tech support took 7 days to respond to a website that had 'gone off' Regards - JB Quote
NikpV Posted May 1, 2006 Author Report Posted May 1, 2006 Were with pipex but there were very slow adopting surftime and at the time my phone bill (due to internet usage) was working out at Quote
mumof4 Posted May 1, 2006 Report Posted May 1, 2006 im with tiscali..i have 2meg bb..thats all i know about it!! :blink: :angry: ..never had any probs at all with it. :angry: Quote
NikpV Posted May 1, 2006 Author Report Posted May 1, 2006 Too much traffic shaping from what I've heard with tiscali but you probably wouldn't notice unless you do much full speed downloads :blink: Quote
Masked Marauder Posted May 2, 2006 Report Posted May 2, 2006 As a Pipex Residential customer I can't say that I have had any problems, just 3 years of ADSL where it has works without a single outage and the tree times I have called customer services I have got straight through and the issue resolved in a few minutes. I can't speak for the business side though, John's problems seem quite bad. Pipex have been throttleing you connection if your using Bittorrent though, but if you use encrypted headers (most of the new clients do as an option) then there is no problem. :) Quote
Bigjeeze Posted May 3, 2006 Report Posted May 3, 2006 If you run a business your requirements are completely different from the average user - it will depend onyour applications. You really do need to go with some of the more professional business solutions providers and not the mickey mouse here today gone tomorrow types. Customer service is everything - but you do get what you pay for - As the saying go's Good thing No cheap Cheap thing no good!! Quote
morticiaskeeper Posted May 3, 2006 Report Posted May 3, 2006 I'm with freedom2surf. 2Mb speed, unlimited, no shaping or port blocking and a VOIP account billed to the same account. Quote
Guest Cepheus Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 Where abouts are you Nik? If you're in a Telewest cabled area then I'd definately reccommend blueyonder. Free speed upgrades recently to 4Mb for as low as Quote
Guest Cepheus Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 try this site to see exactly what's available to you ..... Sam Knows Quote
NikpV Posted May 4, 2006 Author Report Posted May 4, 2006 thanks but ntl not available ADSL is available in your area Your exchange is also enabled for ADSL Max services According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 6.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max. Standard ADSL RAG results: You can receive 2Mbps ADSL You can receive 1Mbps ADSL You can receive 512Kbps ADSL You can receive 256Kbps ADSL ohh 6.5Mps - looks like it might be Zen - 5 day lead time only one month contract only downside is a 20Gb/month - best estimate of current usage between 8 & 12Gb , static ip address(up to 8), newsgroup access, 1 Gb webspace <_ just under> Quote
lazyb5 Posted May 4, 2006 Report Posted May 4, 2006 Hi Nik i`m like you with demon pay 20 quid a month 2meg line no cap great when ok but when it went wrong OMG luckily my neighbor is with bt and his went too. When they fixed his mine was ok.Tech support is in Lahore and just cant or dont help but are very polite. Stuck on 12 month contract but when at end of Sept i`m looking <_< Quote
NikpV Posted May 15, 2006 Author Report Posted May 15, 2006 from the chat on demon service it looks like that demon may be changing the terms of service when they introduce adsl max and introducing caps so it looks like that changing ISP is likely when we move - Zen looks good apparently they don't block ports or perform any traffic shaping. Although I reckon I would rarely exceed zens cap over a year it would just be my luck that I would on the odd month :D which is why I am reluctant to go with a service with capped usage. Generally been happy with demon over the years but CS has deteriorated ofver the last 5 or so unlike there accounts department which has been diabolical and completely incompetent since THUS took over - apparently it was just diabolical before. :P Quote
seatkid Posted May 15, 2006 Report Posted May 15, 2006 According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 6.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max. IMO these ultra high figures are nothing but marketing spin - there is no guarantee that the latency and throughput of your isp will be up to the job, especially when you share your node with a bunch of internet download hogs. Quote
Masked Marauder Posted May 15, 2006 Report Posted May 15, 2006 And "Uncapped Downloads" means less and less now as more ISPs introduce "Fair Use" policys that say if you use too much, you get capped.... Quote
NikpV Posted May 15, 2006 Author Report Posted May 15, 2006 According to BT Wholesale, your line should be able to support a 6.5Mbps or greater ADSL connection via ADSL Max. IMO these ultra high figures are nothing but marketing spin - there is no guarantee that the latency and throughput of your isp will be up to the job, especially when you share your node with a bunch of internet download hogs. Thats why I am considering carefully - out of the 4 or 5 I thought I might go with - most fall down on these points, the only problem I came across with demon is the bandwidth use when ppl access your home pages - I almost got put on a restricted server after I got a new camera (nikon d50) and posted some pics - had a couple of days of 120Mb access and they went gaga. Thats what I'm trying to find out :huh: Quote
NikpV Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Posted May 16, 2006 And "Uncapped Downloads" means less and less now as more ISPs introduce "Fair Use" policys that say if you use too much, you get capped.... Basically ISP's have to pay BT for usage and so we have to pay ISP's - there is no such thing as a free lunch ISP's try and balance - low bandwidth users against the high so everyone pays the same. Quote
Masked Marauder Posted May 16, 2006 Report Posted May 16, 2006 there is no such thing as a free lunch Actually, there is, I have several a week, sometimes several a day! And I mean FREE, not inclusive, a perk etc, just a free lunch.... Quote
NikpV Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Posted May 16, 2006 umm so Have I in the past but somebody eventually asks for a favour or something :D :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D Quote
Masked Marauder Posted May 16, 2006 Report Posted May 16, 2006 I drive a lorry doing collections for a supermarket chain and get fed at all sorts of suppliers premises. On sunday it was chicken in black bean sauce with egg fried rice and prawn crackers at a North London firm who supply just about every retailer in the UK with something. I used to do a dailly collection at the company who did the First Class & Concord meals for BA. Soon got sick of all that fancy stuff though! Quote
NikpV Posted May 16, 2006 Author Report Posted May 16, 2006 I used to do a dailly collection at the company who did the First Class & Concord meals for BA. Soon got sick of all that fancy stuff though! lucky you :rolleyes: :rolleyes: oh no not caviar again :rolleyes: :D Quote
Bigjeeze Posted May 16, 2006 Report Posted May 16, 2006 Just wait until next year - BT will have most of its 21CN network in place then - totally IP - Bandwidth will be far easier to come by (but not necessarily cheaper)! Quote
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